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FRIENDS & NEIGHBORS SPECIAL ELECTION EDITION

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Several surprises in Martin County elections yesterday will change how some municipalities and the school board will be governed. There were many more close races than in the past. If anyone doubts the strength of Governor DeSantis and the GOP in this county, they should not. And there are no longer any nonpartisan races here.

 

Congressman Brian Mast easily beat his three challengers in the Republican primary. Jeff Buongiorno, Melissa Martz, and Ljubo Skrbic combined had 22.5% of the 23,375 votes cast in the county. Mast should beat Democrat Corinna Balderramos Robinson in the general by similar margins.

Val Demings trounced her opponents for U.S. Senate in the Democratic primary without breaking a sweat. She will go on to challenge Marco Rubio in November. Rubio a fixture in Florida politics for over 20 years will have a tough race on his hands. However, this is a red state and only getting redder. Governor DeSantis at the top of the ticket should insure Rubio’s re-election.

 

Former governor and now Congressman Charlie Crist came out on top over Nikki Fried in their Democratic primary matchup. He will go on to face Ron DeSantis in the general. At this juncture, Crist is on his own Quixotic journey. It may be time for amiable Charlie to practice law and lobbying.

 

In District 2, Stacey Hetherington beat her dark horse opponent T.J. McGowan handily. Hetherington has been a solid dedicated commissioner throughout her first term. She has grown in the job. McGowan came from nowhere and did not seem to have any accomplishments to point to in his bid for election. The final vote was Hetherington 22,931 to McGowan’s 12,491.

 

Sarah Heard beat Doug Mustapick by less than 5% of the 35,422 votes cast. Mustapick ran an almost flawless campaign. But going up against an iconic legend can be hard. While his mechanics were good, his message was unclear. He seemed to be anti-growth and an environmentalist. If so, how would he be different than Heard?  In this race one need to look where the money came from. The influence of the “Good Old Boys” almost won…message be damned.

 

Jennifer Russell, a newcomer to Martin County and to politics, beat Liz Bernstein with 56.2% of the vote. This was the most political of the non-partisan races. Russell had the endorsement of DeSantis and the PAC money to back her up. Bernstein ran a flawed campaign that did not take adequate advantage of her solid credentials. She was too close to Victoria Defenthaler and the teachers. Russell, even though her children do not attend regular public schools, is a mother and believer in parent involvement at the district level. Just what the voters of Martin County want.

 

In the other school board race, Amy Pritchett defeated incumbent Anthony Anderson by less than 1% of the vote. Anderson, a past teacher in Martin County and brother of the late David Anderson who was a fixture on the school board for over thirty years, was in his first term. Pritchett who is active in the “Moms for Liberty” movement has been involved with the school district for several years. Anderson had the experience but was too closely aligned with the educational establishment for this election’s voters. The nature of the school board will be very different in the future.

 

The continued ½ mill referendum designated mainly to fund a stipend for teachers passed by a two to one margin. I would have thought with the anti-educational fervor, this would have gone down to defeat. I am sure the teachers are very happy with the result.

 

The voters in the City of Stuart rejected incumbent Merritt Matheson for newcomer Chris Collins. Collins is firmly anti- growth. The vote in that race was 51.31% to 48.69%. Incumbent Eula Clarke beat back challenger William Laughlin with 1930 votes to his1687 votes. The open seat was that of Mike Meier who chose not to run. Campbell Rich won over Mark Brechbill by almost 10%.

 

Both Rich and Collins were beneficiaries of a voter backlash to perceived over development. New projects in Stuart will be coming to an end. Developers are already saying the gates are closed. The developers are not wrong.

 

Indiantown elected two newcomers to the council and returned Susan Gibbs Thomas. Both Jackie Clarke and Anthony Dowling were handily defeated in their races for reelection. Carmine Dipaolo won over Dowling by almost 20% of the vote. I would call that a solid drubbing. Clarke was defeated by Angelina Perez by almost 6% of the vote.

 

The electorate was tired of an ever-growing village government. The rub will come if the developers knocking on the door are allowed in. No matter who sits in these seats, the village will have a vastly expanded population moving in. The one person who may have been the biggest loser is Manager Howard Brown. The new majority will not be as accommodating as the last one.

 

This is our special election edition. More on the changes that this election will bring in our newsletter of September 4th.

Where Have All The Environmentalist Gone?

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“Where Have All the Flowers Gone” is a folk song by Pete Seeger, written in the 1950s. It reached its height in popularity during the Vietnam War protest movement.

 

The last time I was driving from Trailside back to Stuart, that song became stuck in my head. I was thinking about the plight of the Trailside residents and Pal-Mar being ecologically destroyed by supposed owners of the tiny lots that now make up much of the Pal-Mar property.

 

I began singing the song to myself and substituting Martin County ecologists in place of flowers. Like the soldiers dying in a war mentioned in Seeger’s song, places like Pal-Mar that disappear can never be replaced. So far in this tragic plight, not one environmental organization or so-called environmentalist has said a word about this destruction.

 

Everglades Foundation, don’t you care about wetlands or is it only when some landowner wants to build a project on his property that you pipe up? Sure, there is no massive housing project going in at Pal-Mar, but there are trailers and campers being brought in and shacks being constructed one at time in violation of the rules and the comp plan that you claim to want to uphold and preserve. Dragging a trailer across ecologically sensitive lots not even owned by the miscreant is an egregious violation of our environmental laws.

 

The Guardians and Director Braun Trailside residents would like to ask if the destruction of native species by four wheelers only counts when the rich say it does. Where are the 1000 Friends of Florida complaining about unregulated hunting that goes on out-of-season and for species that should be protected not slaughtered? How about all the usual suspects who call themselves environmentalists and come to commission meetings to bemoan any change in land use even on an old farm site, while earth moving is going on at Pal-Mar without the benefit of any permits.

FWC has jurisdiction but apparently it is too hard to make sure that their own rules are enforced. It is ludicrous that they do not give out gate keys only to legitimate permit holders, but they leave the gate unguarded and unlocked for anyone to call Pal-Mar home. South Florida Water Management District is one of the largest property owners in Pal-Mar yet seems incapable of making sure that the land will be used to clean water headed for the Everglades and Florida Bay as it is intended to do instead of being a race track for four wheelers.

 

Where have all the county commissioners gone? I know they claim they can’t talk about anything because of pending litigation. The litigation concerns dues that should or should not be paid to the Pal-Mar Board. I am tired of listening to that same refrain in the county’s songbook. They simply won’t enforce our building codes because they are afraid of the big bad men defying their rules.

 

Lastly, where is the law? The duly sworn sheriff and deputies who have pledged to enforce all laws. We hear about the helicopters and how they can swoop down and make sure that lawbreakers are caught in the act. Where are the drones paid for by tax dollars patrolling the skies looking for those not obeying the law? Would it be different if the Pal-Mar gunmen belonged to a Broward street gang coming here to do bad?

 

How do you think the landowners of Trailside feel when confronted with the lack of responsibility by all these elected and appointed officials? All of whom are on the government payroll yet won’t lift a finger to do their duty. Just another day in the life of a fool…but that is a different lyric from a different popular song…though it could apply to the governments here.

“Olde Time Florida”

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I have faint memories of being in my grandparents’ house in Hollywood, FL from 65 years ago. When you are barely more than a toddler, you don’t have fully formed remembrances but just snippets of memories. Then the night was so quiet that you heard the crunching sound of crab shells when cars drove over them in the dark.

 

I remember the beehives my grandfather kept and the stings when I stuck my hand in the hive one day. I think I ended up in the emergency room. Broward was then rural except for a small part of downtown Fort Lauderdale. There were plenty of cows and horses, farms, and ranches.

 

My grandfather was the kind of guy that worked when he had to, fished daily, and hunted when the larder was low. I remember he would have boats on numerous creeks, canals, and rivers buried in the bushes always ready to go. For the most part, he would allow us to fish using a bamboo rod with a line attached.

Photo From Conservation Fund

That Broward is long gone. But this week when I took a tour of the Trailside development, some of that “Olde Time Florida” made a comeback. That was especially true when I drove down the bridal path hugging the Pal-Mar property.  The people that live in Trailside are well-off. If there is anything having to do with ranching being done on their 20-acre ranchettes, it is to qualify for Ag exemptions, but their livelihood isn’t in the cows or the horses.

 

My grandfather’s roots would be more attuned to the people who have owned property in the Pal-Mar region in the past, and they are very different from those that are buying quarter acre lots there now. Granddad didn’t indiscriminately shoot off semiautomatic guns to be a man. He only killed what he needed and that was usually with a single shot rifle.

 

I have a photo of my grandfather, his father, and his father-in-law (another of my great-grandfathers) hunting in the Florida woods somewhere. It could even be in Pal-Mar. They looked like serious men doing the serious business of providing for their families. The photo was taken in the early 1930s. They are not a bunch of Yahoos shooting indiscriminately at anything that moves.

 

The Trailside residents tell me things are getting worse. I have heard that the wetlands are being destroyed and animals are being killed out of season and without a permit. That is bad enough, but do we wait for loss of human life to occur before law enforcement becomes serious?

 

The residents of Trailside just want to be able to ride their horses without being shot. They don’t want to face bullets whizzing by their heads. What is law enforcement going to do? Right now, it looks like nothing.

What We Owe Maggy…And All Of Martin County

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Maggy Hurchalla has died at age 81 after a full and storied life. She had for many become as close to a saint as any mortal can. For others, Hurchalla was the devil incarnate.

 

She was actually neither one. Hurchalla was a dedicated environmentalist with sharp elbows that sometimes her opponents didn’t see coming. A five-time county commissioner, she was no stranger to the art of politics and knew how to line up her supporters when necessary.

 

Like many of us, she came to Martin County and fell in love with the place. A true believer of Everglades restoration and the “mother” of Martin County’s slow growth movement. She was equally at home paddling our rivers as speaking before groups of both admirers and detractors. She could be dogmatic, and her refusal to apologize for her actions regarding Lakepoint and its judgement against her proved that.

Photo From Conservation Fund

She was the architect of Martin County’s original comp plan. Many believe that it is what sets us apart from our southern and northern neighbors, and it is no doubt a big contributor to how we see ourselves. She was thought of as a link to our pioneer past and bulwark to the encroaching future.

 

Martin County is a place that has development battles on a regular basis. There may be another one brewing with the change in the comp plan being proposed. I know where Maggy would be on the issue. And I know where some of the development community is.

 

What I don’t know is where I stand on the proposed changes for adding a rural lifestyle land use designation. I doubt many members of the public know either…if they even know there is a change being proposed. There has been no outreach to everyday citizens. Sure, presentations have been made to the elite Guardians but not to the “Smith” or “Jones” families.

 

Recently, the county rewrote the CRA codes. There was extensive outreach to the people. It took some time, and the result was that our residents did not protest the adoption. No such outreach here. In fact, it is almost as if this is a hidden proposal.

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Whether you thought Maggy was a saint or a devil, Martin County owes the same level of scrutiny to this change to our comp plan as we had for the CRAs. Hurchalla is part of our history and so is her environmental and land use advocacy.

 

The best way to honor her would be to have a series of workshops and outreach when introducing any new land use so that it can be reviewed in the open.  Without that level of outreach and transparency, it seems as if county government is trying to get one over on everyday Martin County residents. And that is something Maggy fought against, and we should too.

 

Jensen Mooring Field: Will It Be Folly Or Resource?

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Will it be another Martin County folly or a valuable resource? That is the question I have with the viability of the Jensen Beach Mooring Field.

 

I am not yet ready to pronounce it as an intrusion into the private sector that will go down as another example of commission hubris. There could be a need for the service and a public that is willing to pay for it. But I have my doubts.

 

We should not forget that the first dock built needed to be torn out because the engineers failed to consider currents and wave action. We should also bear in mind that there is no law that requires boaters to be tied to a mooring ball instead of just dropping anchor anywhere outside of a navigation channel.

I am quite familiar with mooring fields because the Stuart Anchorage is located off my dock. Those that choose to use a ball are responsible boaters. Their vessels are pumped out so that their sewage doesn’t hit the water. Those boaters are out of the navigation channels. They are good neighbors.

 

Then occasionally, there will be what I call a boat bum who just drops anchor. The last boat bum simply dropped anchor at the end of my dock and was there for about three years. His sailboat had no workable engine and I never saw the sail unfurled. Yet he had a registration sticker which was all he needed to have. That is when I learned that a mere citizen cannot report someone dumping waste. It must be law enforcement that sees the violation being committed.

The owner of the boat was in the hospital and/or jail for a prolonged period. The registration expired. Law enforcement was able to then declare that the boat was abandoned and remove it. That may have been one of the ten best days of my life when that occurred.

 

My point is that a mooring field is not going to stop illegal dumping or prevent anchors from destroying sea grasses. It is not going to stop some inexperienced owner from anchoring his boat improperly before a hurricane and the vessel winding up destroying a dock when it comes lose.

 

What the Jensen Beach Mooring Field may do is provide a cheaper alternative to boaters who do not want to pay a private marina. Stuart’s Anchorage works because it is close to downtown. You can catch the tram once you dock your dinghy at the Marina. There is a Publix within walking distance. While you can walk to downtown Jensen Beach, it doesn’t have the same allure.

 

I am willing to give it the season to see whether it was the right thing to do or another waste of taxpayer money. Even if it is arguably the right thing to do to prevent dumping, preserving sea grass beds, and shorelines from being ravaged, will it? Boaters must stop throwing anchors down for free and begin paying to have their vessels safely moored. Without enforcement capabilities, I think we know the answer already.

 

We Need To Think Realistically About Martin County’s Future

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There is no doubt that I am in support of good infill projects in Stuart and Martin County’s CRAs. That does not mean I endorse those projects that are poorly planned or disregard the codes and comp plan.

 

Martin County is on the cusp of deciding whether it will embrace sprawl or embark on a different course. The county can either continue the westward creep of more suburban mid-level 1960s-type single family home development or capitalize on our natural beauty. The Discovery/Becker Farms joint venture off Bridge Road is a unique opportunity to do just that.

Silo Ridge in New York’s Hudson Valley has been popular with celebrities like Tom Brady

The project is a very wealthy man’s dream. It will be a place where the home buyer will spend millions to build a 3rd or 4th home for his collection. There will be no additional need for law enforcement or schools. The most that county services will have to do will be an occasional ambulance call. The real estate tax impact is estimated at $25 million with very few homes having a homestead exemption. Within the next decade, the alternative would be thousands of homes being built there instead of a few hundred.

 

The BOCC will also have the opportunity to approve the many high-end private golf courses coming our way. They will have no homes built, but there will probably be a few guest cottages and a club house at each. People will come from all over the world to become members and play on these courses. The impact to our environment will be minimal.

 

The private courses will also add millions to our tax rolls. Not to mention Discovery owners and golfers eating in our restaurants, buying goods from our merchants, and employing hundreds of residents. Or we can build thousands of homes and become what we have tried to avoid.

 

Many very naïve people believe that the BOCC or Stuart Commission can just say no. They cannot. There are such things as property rights. The current lawsuit that Harmony has against the county is all about property rights. That is in addition to the millions spent in previous lawsuits and settlements because of the disregard of individual rights.

 

What government can do is help shape what will be built. Development codes need to reflect that vision.

 

For those that want to see more housing, then it should be done in the city and CRAs. In these areas, there are quite a few underutilized properties. Just look at the Federal Highway corridor. Single story centers with empty stores and acres of empty parking lots. Adaptive re-use would give us mixed use developments with buildings set closer to the streets and parking in the rear or in some cases in parking garages.

 

It is time we stop the silly illusions some have that those empty parcels within the city and county Urban Service Boundary are going to remain vacant. People are going to come here to live and work from other parts of Florida and the country. We all need to recognize this and stop the propaganda that persists regarding some governmental power to prevent development.

Photo From Conservation Fund

What we can do is shape it so that large swaths of Martin continue to be used in agriculture and ranching. At the same time, the county can get behind projects like the Loxa-Lucie, IRL South, and Pal Mar to save wetlands and provide a natural flow way.  We can adopt realistic goals or have more failed opposition to the idea that an owner can be prevented from exercising his/her property rights.

There Is More Good Than Bad

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We had a fairly good run in not having discharges from Lake Okeechobee into the St. Lucie River in 2019 and the summer of 2020.

 

That run of luck may be over now that the Army Corps of Engineers began releasing water last week. The Corps waited until the lake tipped at over 16 feet. We have not had an algae bloom in Stuart since the disastrous 2018 year. Will we have one now? It is not clear yet.

 

This week in TC Palm, it was reported that “Microcystin, a common toxin found in cyanobacteria, commonly called ‘blue-green algae,’ can linger in the air for 2 hours and travel up to 10 miles on gentle breezes of 4-7 mph, according to a new study by a team of scientists at the University of Florida.” Is that in our future?

Fingers are already being pointed at the Corps and SFWMD. Yet what good will finger pointing do to alleviate this problem? We have had one wet rainy season without a hurricane. The Lake acts as the reservoir for the agricultural lands to the south. It is full and, at least for the time being, those farms will not require much water. It is likely we will have releases for a while.

 

Is it all bad news? No, it isn’t. The C-44 reservoir and STA will hold 50,600-acre feet of water captured from local runoff and if necessary, from Lake Okeechobee. Jacquie Thurlow Lippisch, our representative to SFWMD, told me that STA can treat 46 billion gallons of water each year and remove more than 45,000 pounds of phosphorous.

 

I do not want to see from our local officials any more finger pointing, threats of lawsuits, or other failed tactics of division. As a state, a region, and a county, our elected officials need to be allocating and pushing for money. Money to build and finish the projects needed to stop our ecological disaster.

 

We keep hearing about the federal government finally getting serious about infrastructure spending. Florida water projects are infrastructure. They are more important to us than roadways, airports, or bridges. Without a resolution to our environmental problems, our future is bleak.

 

It doesn’t matter how much you want development; it is not possible without a solution to this problem. If you want to keep Florida with open spaces, you can not have that either without a solution. The Corps, District, and State of Florida want this problem solved as much as we in Martin County do and that is true of the people who live and work north, south, and west of the lake.

 

Now is the time to pull together to seek billions of dollars to make Florida livable into the future. Along with climate change and resiliency, we must address this issue together. If we alienate potential allies in this fight, the war for our future may be lost.

FOR WHOM DO YOU PULL THE LEVER

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When we go to the polls, we make choices. The hardest ones are not about whether a Democrat or a Republican is the better choice. To me, the most perplexing votes are when I am asked to choose between a candidate that has government experience and one that does not.

 

How much does experience matter in elective office? I think it depends on what type of position we are voting to elect. Like any new job, once elected there is a learning curve if you have never worked or served in government before. Government does not operate as the private sector does.

 

Government shouldn’t work as a private business because public money is being expended. There needs to be more safeguards and more hoops to jump through. Bureaucracy is created to do just that.

 

I am more than willing to vote for an inexperienced person to represent me in local government or in the state legislature. Most people who initially run for these positions have the best interests of their communities as their reasons for running. There are seasoned staff employees to explain the intricacies of government to them once elected.

 

I am quite leery of voting for someone with no public track record for an executive office. There is a big difference between “shaking things up” and destroying the system, and knowing the difference is much harder for a neophyte.

 

You need to have the ability to do two things in an executive position.The first is to be able to take advice. The elected executive must be a confident enough leader to surround himself with the very best people he can find. The second is to know your own strengths and weaknesses. Any individual that has been successful has an ego. You need to know how to keep it in check.

 

The last type of elected official is the technical position such as Clerk of the Court, Tax Collector, Sheriff or Property Appraiser. In most places, these positions are not elected ones. Except for sheriff, these are departments within other governments. Those department heads are appointed. They are apolitical and technocratic.

 

Florida has a long tradition of electing these officials. We also had a long tradition of electing our school superintendents. Other places elect chief executives to run local government. We don’t do that here. Is one way better than the other?

 

For those technical offices, the person I vote for must have experience in the field. By running, they are applying for a job and I am one of the deciders on whom to hire. These positions are important. I don’t want my sheriff to be the guy that was an accountant before he was elected.

 

If we are going to insist that we choose a person to run a technical department of government by popular vote, we need to look at his/her resume. You need to have both relevant technical knowledge as well as executive experience. If you make the campaign a popularity contest instead of a job interview, you may not get the best person in that job.

 

Depending on the position, a voter can take different factors into consideration. For county commission, experience isn’t as important as judgement. A connection with the voter is important. A county commissioner or a state senator is a representative of the people that elected him.

 

A sheriff or other constitutional officers are technocrats that enforce existing statutes. They need to have executive experience and knowledge in the field we are entrusting them with overseeing. Electing someone without those attributes is bad public policy and ultimately bad for the taxpayer.

 

From September 29th Friends & Neighbors Newsletter

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THE OLD COURTHOUSE COMES HOME

 

Since 1989, the County has leased the old Courthouse and Gazebo Park to Stuart. The City turned around and then sub-leased the Courthouse to the Arts Council. No money changed hands from Owner to Tenant or Tenant to Sub-Tenant. The only reason the City ever became involved was because the County wanted to tear down the building. With the termination of the old agreement, that all ends.

 

The County has received a $125,000 from the state for a new roof because the structure is historical. The Arts Council will receive $60,000 per year from the County to manage programs at the courthouse. The City will retain a lease on Gazebo Park, but the County can maintain the trees around the building without paying the City the tree trimming fee.

 

Commissioner Heard could not understand how the Arts Council qualifies for free rent and to receive $60,000 per year. She equated it to the BOCC picking winners and losers. On the surface it sounds that way, but Martin County has decided to be responsible for the building because it is an historical structure. The Arts Council is named in the Comp Plan as the County’s local arts agency.

 

There is absolutely no doubt that there are too many nonprofits being funded by nonprofits and or the government. Duplications and similar organizations abound. Perhaps the Arts Council should be combined as part of the Elliot, House of Refuge, and the Stuart Feed store. There can be a debate that joining all these organizations with one Executive Director and Board would make sense economically. But that is not the question being asked.

 

Just like government provides golf courses and parks, they should provide art and music. The Arts Council does that! So it isn’t, at least in this instance, the County picking a winner. This gives us a well-rounded community. A motion was made by Jenkins and seconded by Hetherington for the proposal. It passed 4-1 with Heard dissenting.

 

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Is The Ban Worth It

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Once again, little old Stuart could be embarking on either being a trailblazing community or a foe of the City’s businesses.

The Commission on Monday Aug. 12th will discuss doing away with the use of plastic straws and polystyrene, starting with the properties the City owns. As an example of the impact, there would be no more plastic “clamshells” for your food at festivals in parks. If extended to the entire city, when you go out to eat you won’t be taking your “doggy bag” home in anything but a tin foil wrap in a paper sack.

Is outlawing these things a good thing to do? Sure, it is and should be supported.

It should be supported if the entire nation banned the products at the federal level as that would really make a difference to our environment. A bill has already been filed for next year’s session of the Florida legislature concerning this. If passed, it would be a ban in the third most populous state in the union, making us a national trend setter.

The County may have an interest in banning certain items. If Martin County did so, then Stuart could have a “Me Too” ordinance. The result would ensure that within the 550 square miles of dry land within Martin County’s boundaries there would be unanimity on this. All our residents, and more importantly businesses, would have the same regulations. The way this proposed City plan is currently shaping up, Stuart’s many businesses would pay the price…especially “Mom and Pop” shops.

Stuart has over 300 permitted events a year. If an ordinance is passed, the organizers and the vendors will have to do something special and change their business model to be here. I guess the “plastics” police will be out in force giving citations. This is big government gone amuck. Where is the cost-benefit analysis?

It is easy for Commissioners to impose their non-business judgment for that of Stuart’s tax-paying businesses. If a total ban is passed, then the lawsuits from McDonald’s will not be far behind. The litigation would be paid for by the City’s taxpayers. Now, given the new state law passed last legislative session, perhaps the City will also pay for the prevailing party’s legal bill.

Because you can, doesn’t mean you must. That is the motto of good government. This Commission needs to take a deep breath and not burden the City’s businesses to prove a point. If Stuart were Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Tampa, or Orlando, a ban could have an effect. Environmentally, such a ban for city-owned properties in Stuart will have virtually none.

Laws should not be passed so that we feel good. They are to be imposed for a purpose. If tomorrow you ban all plastics in the City of Stuart, that would not remove them from the Walgreens or Publix or Wawas outside of the City’s limit. Walgreens and Publix could even sue the City in Federal Court under the commerce clause.

If you want to do something that will impact the environment, the place to start is commercial recycling within the City which could be phased in over 3 to 5 years. Many residents do not even realize that commercial businesses (including restaurants and bars) do not currently recycle.  If required, the bottles and cans going into recycling would save the commercial businesses tipping fees at the landfill. This would make a huge difference and end up being much more environmentally friendly.

Unless we ban straws, plastic bags, polystyrene or anything else on a national level, state level or, at a minimum, throughout Martin County, we are not doing anything more than making ourselves feel good. Let’s look at commercial recycling, or better yet, a regional burn facility to incinerate these products. This is doing something that will have an impact.